Re: [escepticos] Biblical ways of getting a wife

[jse <jse@...>]

>Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:57:17 +0100
>To: escepticos en ccdis.dis.ulpgc.es
>From: jse <jse en mad.servicom.es>
>Subject: Re: [escepticos] Biblical ways of getting a wife
>
>At 18:49 17/03/99 +0000, you wrote:
>>  hola a tod en as
>>   Para los escepticos que no creen que la biblia sirva para algo!,  aqui
>>les mando unos tips de sabiduria que solo pueden ser explicados por
>>inspiracion divina a aquellos corraleros que aun esten solteros y esperando
>>por una ansiada media naranja.:
>>
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> Bueno, supongo que todo escéptico tenderá a verificar manifestaciones de
este género, que parecen tendenciosas. Ya que el texto está en inglés,
veamos lo que dice una versión clásica, la "King James". Y la Biblia sí que
sirve, incluso si no se es creyente. Es una lectura de gran interés, aunque
no sea más que porque la cultura de Occidente está impregnada de
cristianismo, religión "del libro", como otras dos, una de ellas muy
importante, y más que lo va a ser. Muchos de los textos de la Biblia son de
gran belleza, o quizá nos lo parezca a quienes hemos sido educados a su
sombra. En particular, el arcaico inglés de la "Authorized Version" es muy
agradable de leer.
>
>>
>>>Traditional Family Values:
>>>The Top 14 Biblical Ways to Get a Wife
>>>
>>>1.  Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home,
>>>  shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new
>>>  clothes. Then she's yours. -  (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)
>>>
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>(...)11.  And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire
unto her, that thou wouldest have her ti thy wife: 12. Then thou shalt bring
her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 And she shall put the raiment of captivity off her, and shall remain in
thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after
that thou shall go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
>
>Comentario: no es que la instrucción original sea un ejemplo de respeto a
los derechos humanos, pero no dice lo mismo, ni mucho menos.
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>>>  2.  Find a prostitute and marry her. -  (Hosea 1:1-3)
>>>
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>1. The word of the Lord that came unto Hosea, the son of Beeri, in the days
of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of
Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel. 2. The beginning of the word of
the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of
whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great
whoredom, departing from the Lord. 3. So he went and took Gomer the daughter
of Diblaim; which conceived, and bare him a son.
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>Comentario: la "instrucción", siendo auténtica, está sacada de contexto.
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>>>  3.  Find a man with seven daughters, and impress
>>>  him by watering his flock.- Moses (Ex 2:16-21)
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>
> El episodio es lo bastante conocido como para saber que Moisés defendió a
las hijas, que, efectivamente, pretendían que abrevase el rebaño y se vieron
rechazadas por unos pastores, "but Moses stood up, and watered the flock", y
las hijas aclaran luego a su padre que "An Egyptian delivered us out of the
hand of the shepherd, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the
flock". Se silencia lo fundamental, y se hace un chiste sobre lo accidental.
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>
> Podría seguir, pero cansa. Lo de Ruth no es tan inexacto, aunque no se
trata de obtener una mujer como parte de la operación. La motivación de la
historia es distinta y más importante.
>
> Si a alguno de los escépticos le interesa, sigo con el resto de estos
sesgados textos. No se deben falsear las cosas así. Esto perjudica más a las
tesis de quien lo escribe, porque recurrir a esos falseamientos es
innecesario. Eso de apelar al ridículo como argumento es propio de quien no
tiene otras armas. Y es injustificable, porque las hay.
>
>Salud
>
>jse
>
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>>>
>>>  4.  Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman
>>>  as part of the deal.  Boaz (Ruth 4:5-10)
>>>
>>>  5.  Go to a party and hide. When the women come
>>>  out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your
>>>  wife. -   Benjaminites (Judges 21:19-25)
>>>
>>>  6.  Have God create a wife for you while you sleep.
>>>  Note: this will cost you.- Adam (Gen 2:19-24)
>>>
>>>  7.  Agree to work seven years in exchange for a
>>>  woman's hand in marriage. Get tricked into
>>>  marrying the wrong woman.  Then work another
>>>  seven years for the woman you wanted to marry
>>>  in the first place.  That's right. Fourteen years of
>>>  toil for a wife. - Jacob  (Genesis 29:15-30)
>>>
>>>  8.  Cut 200 foreskins off of your future father-in-law's
>>>  enemies and get his daughter for a wife - David
>>>  (I Samuel 18:27)
>>>
>>>  9.  Even if no one is out there, just wander around
>>>  a bit and you'll definitely find someone.  (It's all
>>>  relative, of course.) -  Cain (Genesis 4:16-17)
>>>
>>>  10.  Become the emperor of a huge nation and
>>>  hold a beauty contest. - Xerxes or Ahasuerus (Esther 2:3-4)
>>>
>>>  11.  When you see someone you like, go home
>>>  and tell your parents, "I have seen a ... woman;
>>>  now get her for me."  If your parents question your
>>>  decision, simply say, "Get her for me. She's the
>>>  one for me." -   Samson (Judges 14:1-)
>>>
>>>  12.  Kill any husband and take HIS wife (Prepare
>>>  to lose four sons, though). - David (2 Samuel 11)
>>>
>>>  13.  Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow.
>>>  (It's not just a good idea; it's the law.) - Onana and
>>>  Boaz (Deuteronomy or Leviticus, example in Ruth)
>>>
>>>  14.  Don't be so picky. Make up for quality with
>>>  quantity. - Solomon  (1 Kings 11:1-3
>>>
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>>  saludos cordiales, Pablo.
>>
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