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AANEWS for Sunday,  August 17, 2003
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> A M E R I C A N   A T H E I S T S
> #1119 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 8/17/03
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> A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS
> "Leading The Way For Atheist Civil Rights
> And The Separation Of Church And State"
>
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> 
> "ATHEIST is really a thoroughly honest, unambiguous
> term, it admits of
> no paltering and of no evasion, and the need of the
> world, now as
> ever, is for clear-cut issues and unambiguous
> speech."  -- Chapman
> Cohen
> 
>
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> 
> In This Issue...
> *  Moore supporters rock out, but Atheists,
> Freethinkers
>    stand firm for state-church separation
> *  Get in on the action! Join American Atheists
> *  American Atheists Speakers Bureau
> *  Resources
> *  About this list...
> 
>    BRAGGADOCIO, HYPERBOLE AS COMMANDMENTS SUPPORTERS
>           RALLY BEHIND MOORE IN MONTGOMERY
> Turn-Out Short Of Predictions: Atheists,
> Separationists Take Stand
>   McDowell: "No Man's Ego And Nobody's Religion
> Should Come
>                                 Above The
> Constitution..."
> 
> They came to Montgomery, Alabama by the thousands
> yesterday to support
> the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, and
> the public display
> of the Ten Commandments.
> 
> Participants raised their arms toward the sky and
> sang religious
> songs.  Others waved banners and signs proclaiming
> messages like "Keep
> My Commandments and Live -- Proverbs 4:4," or
> patiently stood in line
> to file slowly into the state Judicial Building
> where they could view
> the object behind this growing controversy -- a
> 5,280-lb.  granite
> monument to the Decalogue.  Federal Judge Myron
> Thompson ruled that
> the washing machine-sized display violates the
> constitutional
> separation of church and state, and has imposed an
> August 20 deadline
> for its removal.
> 
> And at the center of it all is Justice Roy Moore,
> Alabama's highest
> elected judicial official who received rousing
> applause as he ascended
> the steps of the capitol building yesterday and told
> fellow believers
> in his cause that they were doing the work of the
> Lord.
> 
> "In houses and schools across the land, it's time
> for Christians to
> take a stand," Moore declared passionately.  He
> repeated his earlier
> vow to defy any federal court order to remove the
> Commandments.
> Amidst cheers and shouts of "Amen!"  Moore added
> that the battle
> spreading throughout the country was not about his
> own personal fate.
> 
> "Let's get this straight.  It's about the
> acknowledgement of God...
> It's not about me.  I will pass away as every
> politician and every
> pastor, but the laws of God will remain forever."
> 
> On Friday, attorneys for the embattled Chief Justice
> filed papers
> asking the Supreme Court to delay enforcement of the
> removal order.
> 
> Moore also received an ovation after he recited a
> poem he had written
> grandly titled "Our American Birthright."  He ended
> his speech by
> reminding Christians, "We are fighting all over this
> globe to preserve
> liberty for others, but many people don't understand
> that we're
> fighting a battle here."
> 
> Thompson was the target of wrath from other
> speakers, including Rev.
> Rick Scarborough, president of Vision America which
> helped to organize
> the rally.
> 
> "This is not the end of this movement," said
> Scarborough, whose group
> encourages pastors and churches to become active in
> political issues.
> "It's the birth of this movement."
> 
> "We're here because we believe our God has been
> insulted."
> 
> VA personnel circulated through the excited crowd
> with plastic buckets
> soliciting $10 donations to cover the costs of the
> "Restore the Ten
> Commandments Rally" and Moore's growing legal
> expenses.
> 
> Many of those who showed up to support Justice Moore
> spoke publicly of
> how the rally was "the start of something bigger," a
> movement that
> will sweep the nation.
> 
> "This thing today was one of the most important
> political gatherings
> in the last 15 or 20 years," declared political
> consultant Rick
> Shaftan, who traveled from New Jersey.  "In my part
> of the country,
> people laugh at this issue, but these are the very
> basic American
> values."
> 
> Shaftan added that "There's a real resentment
> against unelected
> officials making laws and people are getting fed up
> with it."
> 
> The Rev.  Jerry Falwell, head of Liberty University
> and founder of the
> defunct Moral Majority told the crowd that Moore was
> right in defying
> Judge Thompson's order since he believed he is
> obeying the will of God.
> 
> "Civil disobedience is the right of all men when we
> believe breaking
> man's law is needed to preserve God's laws," Falwell
> declared.  "We need
> a spiritual renaissance and we need it now." 
> Referring to Moore,
> Falwell added, "When God gives you a champion, get
> behind him."
> 
> Falwell also tried to compare the Saturday
> Commandments rally to the
> civil rights movement, and cited the late Dr. 
> Martin Luther King and
> his fellow activists as "courageous citizens
> informed by Christian
> precepts."
> 
> "Like Martin Luther King and his army of a
> generation ago, we shall
> overcome," said Falwell.
> 
> Howard Phillips, a 1996 presidential candidate and
> chairman of the
> Conservative Caucus, went as far as to suggest that
> President Bush
> appoint Moore to the next vacancy on the U.S. 
> Supreme Court.  He also
> said that Judge Thompson should resign immediately
> from his office.
> 
> "Judge Thompson has violated his oath of office by
> disregarding the
> constitution and attempting to usurp and elected
> judge of the state of
> Alabama.  That's why we hold them (sic) in
> contempt."
> 
> Phillips  called for the impeachment of Thompson and
> other judges who
> have ruled against the inclusion of public religion
> in government.
> 
> "They are the Benedict Arnolds of American
> jurisprudence and should be
> stripped of their robes," Phillips told the crowd.
> 
> That sentiment resonated with rally participants
> like Terry Crockett,
> who traveled with a dozen member of his local
> Cleveland, Ohio church
> to attend.
> 
> "They are not upholding the law of the land, the Ten
> Commandments, or
> upholding the Constitution as it was written,"
> Crockett told
> reporters.  "They are making their own laws and our
> nation is
> degrading.  This is our country's last chance right
> here."
> 
> Another former presidential hopeful, commentator
> Alan Keyes, told the
> crowd that people should be able to live in
> communities that embody
> their personal ideals, not the standards imposed by
> federal judges.
> He drew loud ovations when he claimed that there was
> no law requiring
> church and state to be separated.
> 
> "It's time to take back what has been wrested from
> us by judicial
> tyranny -- the freedom to live in communities that
> reflect our
> beliefs," Keyes said.  "I call on the president and
> the Congress to
> take a stand and finally put a bridle on these
> unruly courts."
> 
> Rally participants were outspoken in their support
> for Justice Moore
> and his defiance of the federal courts.  The
> Montgomery Advertiser
> noted, "A common belief among people interviewed at
> the rally was that
> Moore has a right to civilly disobey a federal
> judge's orders if they (sic)
> believe God's law is supreme."
> 
> One supporter made the long trip from California,
> she said, because
> "the Ten Commandments is the most precious and
> important thing in my
> life right now.  No judge has the right to tell us
> we can't post
> them."
> 
> Others linked the federal ruling on the Commandments
> monument with
> what they perceived to be a general malaise in
> American culture
> coupled with a decline in moral and social values,
> especially if the
> power of religion is diminished.  "Our laws are
> built on the Ten
> Commandments and whether people admit it or not our
> forefathers fought
> for it," argued a couple of Moore supporters from
> Tuscaloosa.  Others
> spoke of "taking a stand," and linked the brouhaha
> over Moore's
> Commandments display to other issues like prayer in
> public schools,
> abortion, and the battle over including "under God"
> in the Pledge of
> Allegiance.
> 
> There was also militant rhetoric, with Moore
> describing those at the
> rally as "soldiers" engaged in "spiritual warfare."
> 
>             Commandments Rally Falls Short Of
> Promises?
> 
> Despite the emotional sloganeering and passionate
> pleas about
> Christians flexing political muscle by supporting
> Moore, attendance at
> the Commandments rally appears to have fallen
> considerably short of
> the tens of thousands promised by organizers, and
> the 25,000 predicted
> by Rev.  Scarborough from Vision America.  People
> did travel from
> throughout the nation to show their solidarity with
> the Chief Justice;
> but the total count -- estimated by most media at
> approximately 3,5000
> -- was buried in the news stories talking about
> "Swarms of Ten
> Commandments supporters," "Hundreds of van, cars,
> buses and
> motorcycles," and even "more than 2,000 people."
> 
>                     Atheists Stand Firm For
> Separation
> 
> A smaller but equally determined group of
> approximately 35 Atheists,
> Freethinkers and state-church separation advocates
> showed up in
> Montgomery as well, energized by Larry Darby,
> Alabama State Director
> for American Atheists.
> 
> First Amendment stalwart Randall Gorman journeyed
> from Texas.  "In one
> hand, Gorman held a sign that called for the
> separation of church and
> state," reported the Huntsville Times.  "In the
> other, he held another
> sign, this one more visible to the people who were
> filing out of one
> of the buses from Houston.  'Get off your knees,
> America,' it read."
> 
> Gorman told reporters, "This didn't happen because
> of the Alabama
> Legislature or the Supreme Court.  It happened
> because of one man
> who's imposing his religious views on everyone. 
> That's not America.
> America is diverse."
> 
> Gorman also delighted fellow demonstrators with his
> chant of "Hey,
> hey, ho, ho, the magic rock has got to go!"
> 
> Todd Kinley, a research scientist came from
> Huntsville to join the
> action.  He told newspaper reporters, "Personally, I
> believe in
> science and reason and the only way you can have
> freedom of religion
> is to have separation of church and state."
> 
> Also in Montgomery was Greg McDowell, Florida State
> Director for
> American Atheists.  He questioned Moore's claim of
> divine permission
> for defying federal orders.
> 
> "How would he like it if people disobeyed his
> orders," McDowell asked
> of Moore.  "When it comes to this country's laws no
> man's ego and
> nobody's religion should come above the
> constitution."
> 
> One Atheist sign in the counter-demonstration
> referred to Alabama's
> Judicial Building -- temporary home to Moore's
> Commandments display --
> as "a courthouse, not a church."
> 
> "We are here to let the world know that not all
> people in Alabama are
> religion," said Larry Darby.  "There is a community
> of reason in
> Alabama, and Atheists represent this community of
> reason."
> 
> For further information:
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/alabam26.htm
> ("Judge says commandments monument must go, will
> Moore comply?"  8/7/03)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/tenco30.htm
> ("House attempt to circumvent Constitution, federal
> courts?  Lawmakers vote
> against
> enforcement on Ten Commandments, Pledge decisions,"
> 8-2-03)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/tenco28.htm
> ("On to the Supreme Court?  Moore announces
> appeal...," 7/4/03)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/al
> (Office of the Alabama State Director, American
> Atheists)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/alabam20.htm
> ("Moore files appeal notice on removal order,"
> 12/14/02)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/alabam18.htm
> ("Moore in exclusive film deal with televangelist,"
> 11/26/01)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/church/tencommandments.html
> ("Rehnquist and the Ten Taboos," by Frank Zindler)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/church/hangemall.htm
> ("Hang 'Em All -- Completely!" by Frank Zindler)
> 
> http://www.positiveatheism.org/crt/whichcom.htm
> ("Which Ten Commandments," by Cliff Walker)
> 
>
http://www.americanatheist.org/column/ontar5-28-01.html
> (Post The Commandments, Spare Not The Rod!" by
> Conrad F. Goeringer)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/tenco29.htm
> ("Darby speaks out on Moore press conference,"
> 7/4/03)
> 
> http://www.atheists.org/flash.,line/tenco27.htm
> ("Circuit Court rules for 'aphorisms' as squabbles
> over religious
> sloganeering, commandments continue," 8/2/02)
> 
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