RE: [escepticos] RV: TT

["Eduardo Zotes Sarmiento" <diotalle@...>]

Jeje... Ademas de la nota que envie hoy de madrugada aqui esta el
articulo:

http://www.ama-assn.org/sci-pubs/journals/most/recent/issues/jama/oc71352a.htm

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> De: Planetario <planetario en cin.es>
> A: Lista Escepticos <escepticos en CCDIS.dis.ulpgc.es>
> Asunto: [escepticos] RV: TT
> Fecha: jueves 2 de abril de 1998 9:16
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> De: James Randi <JamesRandi en compuserve.com>
> Para: Star List <WIZARDS-STAR-LIST en SSR.COM>
> Fecha: miércoles 1 de abril de 1998 20:14
> Asunto: TT
> 
> 
> THE ROSA EXCITEMENT!
> 
> The news this morning is full of material on Emily Rosa's TT test,
> published in the JAMA.
> 
> It is also full of objections from TT proponents, including Dolores
> Krieger, who originated TT back in 1972.  She objects that Emily did not
> use the right practitioners to test.
> 
> Well, both the Rosas and this office have tried repeatedly over the past
> few years to obtain ANY sort of response from Krieger.  She has
> consistently refused to respond.  She was personally invited to serve as a
> subject of tests, but by her silence, declined.
> 
> Ms. Krieger is quoted in the New York Times of today, saying that "no one
> would co-operate with Mr. Randi because his experiment was 'stupid and
> ill-advised.  The man is a magician.  I hate to be mean,but a magician is a
> manipulator.'"  Dolores, you smooth talker, you! I can't argue with your
> opinion that my experiment was "stupid," but it was not at all
> "ill-advised."  I made it all up my myself.  And what was this "stupid"
> experiment?  We (the Glickmans, both registered nurses, provided the venue
> in Philadelphia) had a subject -- chosen by the practitioner -- seated at a
> table, tossing a coin to decide whether or not the arm would go into an
> opaque fiberglass sleeve fastened to a table top.  The first 20 tests were
> done "open."  That meant that the practitioner could see whether the arm
> was inserted or not.  She got 20 out of 20 correct, not to our surprise --
> but that was to establish that she could successfully do the "feeling of
> the HEF" under those conditions.  The next 20 trials were done "blind,"
> with only the person behind an opaque screen knowing the state of the arm.
> That was monitored by no-monitor TV.  She got 11 out of 20 correct.  Asked
> to continue, she declined.
> 
> Dolores Krieger, what's wrong with that test?  As with the Rosa test, it's
> simple, straightforward, inexpensive, definitive, and scientific.  The
> results are immediately evident.  Ms. Krieger, do YOU have a better test?
> I know that you'll read this, but will you respond?  I think not.
> 
> The fact is that TT CAN BE TESTED!  It's a simple claim, and it's used by
> thousands of medical personnel all over the world.  Emily Rosa tested it,
> and got negative results.  We at the JREF stand prepared to conduct tests
> that meet the approval of the practitioners (attention, Dolores Krieger!)
> so long as such tests are double-blind and definitive.  We await a
> response.
> 
> We believe that the medical community have the means, the skill, the
> expertise, and the OBLIGATION to conduct proper tests of this and other
> "alternative healing" modalities.  We demand that they do so, or it will be
> perceived that they have failed to meet their responsibities, and have
> decided to allow quackery to continue in the USA.
> 
> We are of the opinion that Therapeutic Touch is a myth, and we're putting
> up our money.  The 2000 Club prize money is now backed by US$1,000,000 in
> agency securities -- immediately negotiable instruments -- held in
> a special Prize Account for this specific purpose held by Goldman Sachs,
> New York.
> 
> And, as an official announcement, we've decided to declare the 2000 Club
> Prize to be an even one million dollars.  It's tidyer and easier that
> way....
> 
>                                         James Randi
>