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On Tue Jun 18, 2002 at 08:19:29AM +0200 javarm wrote:

> Gould on memes:
> (cito un ejemplo)
> 
> ¶20 Natural selection does not enjoy this necessary substrate
> neutrality. As the great evolutionist R.A. Fisher showed many years ago
> in the founding document of modern Darwinism (The Genetical Theory of
> Natural Selection, l930), natural selection requires Mendelian
> inheritance to be effective. Genetic evolution works upon such a
> substrate and can therefore be Darwinian. Cultural (or memetic) change
> manifestly operates on the radically different substrate of Lamarckian
> inheritance, or the passage of acquired characters to subsequent
> generations. Whatever we invent in our lifetimes, we can pass on to our
> children by our writing and teaching. Evolutionists have long understood
> that Darwinism cannot operate effectively in systems of Lamarckian
> inheritance--for Lamarckian change has such a clear direction, and
> permits evolution to proceed so rapidly, that the much slower process of
> natural selection shrinks to insignificance before the Lamarckian
> juggernaut. 
> 
> ¶21 This crucial difference between biological and cultural evolution
> also undermines the self-proclaimed revolutionary pretensions of a
> much-publicized doctrine--"evolutionary psychology"--that could be quite
> useful if proponents would trade their propensity for cultism and
> ultra-Darwinian fealty for a healthy dose of modesty.3 
> 
> esto de( http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Debate/Gould.html )Evolution: The
> Pleasures of Pluralism, STEPHEN JAY GOULD, New York Review of Books,
> June 26, 1997  
> 
> Hay una serie de enlaces, en los G-Files, en los que recoge información
> sobre los debates entre Gould y "otros". Mira en
> http://www.world-of-dawkins.com/Catalano/the_g_files.htm
> 

ajá, muchas gracias, ahora recuerdo haber leido ese tipo de crítica -que la
evolucion cultural es lamarckiana-. Parece que es uno de los escollos de la
memética. Susan Blackmore propone para salvarlo no llevar demasiado lejos
la analogia gen-meme, considerar que su parecido se acaba en que son
replicantes sometidos a un algoritmo evolutivo y reservar el termino
"lamarckiano" a los debates sobre evolucion biologica de las especies que
se reproducen sexualmente. 

Para la evolucion cultural propone una distincion que parece mas util,
entre mecanismos que "copian instrucciones" (una receta de cocina por
escrito o una partitura musical: ejemplos no lamarckianos) y los que
"copian el producto" (copiar una musica o una tonada de oido: ejemplo
lamarckiano).

saludos

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